LOVE THIS!!!!!! Such a snappy and fun movie. And such a formative one for us both, and which fully launched me (and I’m sure many others) into the original series and Trekkie territory. And I adored Anton so much!
Funnily I wouldn’t consider myself a real JJ fan even though I adore this and LOST, but I do like his obsession with fate and the sincerity of his writing, which you really nail here. Giacchino’s score is magnificent. I cried right at the opening scene during my first watch.
On the boy movie consideration, not to sound like a term paper, but I think this movie also gave us a cool new lens through which to consider fandom and how it intersects with gender. If my TV history is right, Trekkies (largely men) were the original media fandom (if we’re not counting Elvis and Beatles girls) who through their absolute devotion turned a niche show into an enduring franchise. This movie honors them and that energy while also showcasing how much more of a woman-dominated field stanning had become in the 21st century.
I think the movie also leans into both Bones and Chekov as real fan service characters (and because they both have some distinctly 60s qualities that don’t super translate to 2009) but it largely works anyway. Dammit Jim etc.
it's one of a handful of movies that i will always associate with our teen years!!! i vividly remember going to see it with you on, i believe, my birthday :') also i weirdly think of JJ as a you thing but that's probably just because of how many hours you spent trying to get me to watch lost
and YES i think you're spot on about the fandom of it all! a lot of the reason this movie works is because of the way it balances out the boy fan service stuff with girl stuff (like chris pine with a bloody face). based on my (limited) knowledge, boys lifted the fandom up and girls eventually ran away with it. the way i see babygirl fancams for the new gregory peck grandson spock...
a) chris pine's charisma is our nation's greatest undertapped resource and i can't really think of an actor's career to compare his to - a very unique career arc!!
b) this whole conversation also doubles as a treatise on why j.j.'s version of star wars and rian's version of star wars were fated to never work well together
b) coming from me, someone who literally knows nothing about star wars other than what my friends have told me, i actually think you're onto something here
LOVE THIS!!!!!! Such a snappy and fun movie. And such a formative one for us both, and which fully launched me (and I’m sure many others) into the original series and Trekkie territory. And I adored Anton so much!
Funnily I wouldn’t consider myself a real JJ fan even though I adore this and LOST, but I do like his obsession with fate and the sincerity of his writing, which you really nail here. Giacchino’s score is magnificent. I cried right at the opening scene during my first watch.
On the boy movie consideration, not to sound like a term paper, but I think this movie also gave us a cool new lens through which to consider fandom and how it intersects with gender. If my TV history is right, Trekkies (largely men) were the original media fandom (if we’re not counting Elvis and Beatles girls) who through their absolute devotion turned a niche show into an enduring franchise. This movie honors them and that energy while also showcasing how much more of a woman-dominated field stanning had become in the 21st century.
I think the movie also leans into both Bones and Chekov as real fan service characters (and because they both have some distinctly 60s qualities that don’t super translate to 2009) but it largely works anyway. Dammit Jim etc.
it's one of a handful of movies that i will always associate with our teen years!!! i vividly remember going to see it with you on, i believe, my birthday :') also i weirdly think of JJ as a you thing but that's probably just because of how many hours you spent trying to get me to watch lost
and YES i think you're spot on about the fandom of it all! a lot of the reason this movie works is because of the way it balances out the boy fan service stuff with girl stuff (like chris pine with a bloody face). based on my (limited) knowledge, boys lifted the fandom up and girls eventually ran away with it. the way i see babygirl fancams for the new gregory peck grandson spock...
a) chris pine's charisma is our nation's greatest undertapped resource and i can't really think of an actor's career to compare his to - a very unique career arc!!
b) this whole conversation also doubles as a treatise on why j.j.'s version of star wars and rian's version of star wars were fated to never work well together
a) PERIOD!!! he's something special!
b) coming from me, someone who literally knows nothing about star wars other than what my friends have told me, i actually think you're onto something here
“Matt Damon somehow being involved with this, as he has been involved with so many areas of my life” so so true
he's always around... somewhere...